Candace Owens, the renowned talk show host, has leaked a voicemail Kim Kardashian allegedly sent to Ray J about a decade ago. In the voicemail, she refers to Whitney Houston as an “old hag” before calling the ex-couple “sick” and “disgusting.”

While it’s unclear how Owens obtained the audio, she felt inclined to play the recording in the latest episode of her Candace Owens Podcast as she touched on the Black men the Kardashians used to get to where they are today before “leaving them in the dust.”